William Branham False Prophet

https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/05/09/william-branham-false-prophet-2/

This is an important book, this link includes purchase
information for pdf version. There are many articles
that discuss this issue you can find using a search
engine also.

you wouldn't think the new age has to do with
pentecostalism and charismatic evangelicalism
now would you? but there are distinct overlaps
to put it mildly. And an alarming thing is that
Alice Bailey said that the churches would be a
key thing in bringing the new age in, by an
infiltration and redefinition of terms so that new
age ideas would replace somewhat similar but
misinterpreted and misapplied (by new agers)
ideas in Scripture.

Branham is part of this mess. Another part is the
developing doctrine attitude of Roman Catholicism
which allows subtle error to build on subtle error
in the visions and apparitions. All you need then
is for a believer in such to become pope, and
something once an optional but unnecessary
belief becomes dogma. or at least a lot of such to
teach in seminaries and the populace (out of which
can come such a pope) believes something.

A pope's pronouncements supposedly have to be
on morals or faith and be given ex cathedra and
the definition of the latter is so dicey yet precise
an odd mix, that it is argued by some that except
for the papal pronouncements of the immaculate
conception of Mary, Mary as Queen of heaven
(a concept in keeping with her being the King Jesus'
mother, in Jewish practice the queen was the king's
mother not one of his wives, but open to misapplication
and suble redirection to pagan notions now visible
in the pachamama debacle) and maybe one other
thing I forget what, this power of infallible pronouncement
has not been used at all and of course was it always
a charism present, or only acquired when it was decreed
by the crew that did so?

Popes are always writing things about faith and morals,
and the people will accept these as if ex cathedra due
to simplicity. it takes a determined priest who does not
accept some point to get these recognized as optional
and opinions not dogmatic definitions of popes.

Another problem is theosis. or divinization. In legitimate
Christian thought, from Peter speaking of us participating
in the divine nature, that's PARTICIPATING not acquiring,
this is like the more traditional protestant notion of
godliness which means godlikeness that is, God's
character such as patience, love, justice and so forth
and self control (one of the fruits as distinct from gifts
of the Holy Spirit).

The mysticism of Eastern Orthodoxy is that of living
according to godliness and bringing the holy with you
out of church into the world to affect the world and
progressively change the profaneness of yourself and
the world (insofar as you can affect it) into more
and more holiness. And this may include in some cases
a gift of discernment of spirits aka clairvoyance where
a monk or someone in the world can read hearts, or
even sometimes a sort of ability to sense things.
Sometimes there are experiences involving icons and
so forth that required discernment and advice from a
spiritual father, if its not a regularly miraculous icon.
Prelest, spiritual deception, a term that varies from a
personal "fancy" to flat out possession, is something
we are warned against.

in new age mysticism and divinization, we are supposedly
either already gods or god in us in a general way and we
are supposed to realize this, or are to become gods by
nature, not adoption and similar goodness like God. This
is of course the lie of the serpent in Eden, that we would
become like God in the transcendent sense knowing
in an experiential and determining as beyond good and
evil being supreme like God His equal or worse yet His
superior. this is the new age lie and it appears in various
forms in the charismatic scene as well.

Branham received the shaktipat in india, and this is what
is transferred in those anointings that track back by succession
to him, which is to say most. kundalini not The Holy Spirit.

Revelation Definitely Written AD 96 not earlier

Jackson, Wayne. "When Was the Book of Revelation Written?" ChristianCourier.com. Access date: March 8, 2020. https://www.christiancourier.com/articles/1552-when-was-the-book-of-revelation-written
An effort is made by preterists and scholars after 1831
to date Revelation as early, and all in it come to pass
already. External and internal evidence shows it was
written late.

The sections that cover John's time to near future and now
are Rev. chapters 1-6, with part of the latter unfulfilled
but the context for it is lining up.

The article shows that the attempt to interpret Nero
as the antichrist "is possible only by pursuing the most irresponsible form of exegesis.

To come up with such an interpretation one must:

1. add the title “Caesar” to Nero’s name;
2. compute the letter-number arrangement on the basis of Hebrew, whereas the book was written in Greek; and
3. alter the spelling of “Caesar” by dropping the yodh in the Hebrew.

All of this reveals a truly desperate attempt to find a reference to Nero in the text.

Additionally, Leon Morris has pointed out that Irenaeus discussed a number of possibilities for deciphering the 666, but he did not even include Nero in his list, let alone regard this as a likely conjecture (1980, 38). Noted critic Theodor Zahn observed that Nero was not even suggested as a possibility until the year 1831 (447)."

Disney occultism

Disney has always been covertly occultic. the fairy stories etc. are softened versions (Grimm's fairy stories) of more hard core ancient legends. "fairy godmother" godmother in WHAT? a godparent stands as sponsor in Christianity for the child, just what demonic cult in a make nice format would this represent? the fae are said to pay a tithe every seven years to hell. the fairy dust that is scattered by Tinkerbell at the start of several Disney programs is like luciferian false light mind scattering stuff.  Disney's fascist involvement is known, and they were often into occult philosophy whether racial only or more advanced. https://www.vulture.com/2013/12/walt-disney-anti-semitism-racism-sexism-frozen-head.html fact checks on rumors and still comes up with dirt. https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/06/walt-the-quasi-nazi-the-fascist-history-of-disney.html more info and credible based on observed behavior and statements https://amos37.com/the-disney-deception/  looks at his occultc subtle angle.

the whole idea of fantasy (the word comes from phantasm or spirit or ghost) as being good for children then they have to outgrow it, and the ones who don't seem to be susceptible to all kinds of craziness incl. perversion, is twisted. the idea you only have to imagine and get what you want is life destroying waste and subjectivism unless, even worse, you figure out how to develop some power to affect others' minds and actually get some of it done. While fantasy stories have involved good vs. evil ideas, and C. S. Lewis attempted this in the slop job Narnia series, and Tolkien also but more paganized, more godless a universe, and some people have become Christians by their influence especially C. S. Lewis influence since he goes into reality writing as a Christian also, and the idea of good vs. evil may be pursued into rejecting the whole occultic fairy, otherworldly stuff, it also has been the conveyorbelt that led some into witchcultism.

FAIRIES WERE NOT GOOD PEOPLE IN THE ORIGINAL STORIES, fairy lights (usually methane flames) led you to your death in quicksand on moors and swamps thinking you were heading towards a lit house in the distance, or just wandering out of your way for hours while hypothermia risk increases. fairies were usually terrifying and destructive things who had to be bribed and were easily ticked off classic malignant narcissist  types psychologically stole all the time and wouldn't tolerate anyone stealing from them. Their palaces and so forth were lies and illusions.

Fantasia was coming out of the closet so to speak. though it and the original story warns against meddling in stuff you can't handle, it does not rebuke the upstart's boss who is a wizard!

cartoon characters get smashed then reconstitute themselves, go through thin gaps, and so forth. a friend of mine who could see stuff said spirits operate like this. SO WHERE DID THE CARTOONISTS GET THE IDEA? WHAT WERE THEY HANGING OUT WITH, OR AT LEAST ABLE TO SEE AND INSTEAD OF RUNNING FROM USED THE IMAGERY?

new age occultic philosophy promoting mother superior

http://shoebat.com/2019/10/12/how-our-trip-to-rome-uncovered-a-network-of-nuns-who-are-pushing-for-the-occult-in-the-catholic-church/

The New Jerusalem from Heaven to Earth

The usual habit of Roman Catholicism, ORthodoxy and
protestantism is to treat this as figurative and symbolic and
spiritualize it. no specific explanation given.

But this is after the new heavens and new earth the restoration of
the earth to its original condition, after the Second Coming of
Jesus Christ to judge the living and the dead and rule on earth
"and of His kingdom there shall be no end" says the Nicene-
Constantinopolitan Creed.

Chiliasm that was rejected was the idea that Christ's reign would
only last 1,000 years, not that it wouldn't be physical. The first
to denounce physicality of the Kingdom of Heaven was a pupil
of Origen who considered it all just too disgustingly material and
physical icky material stuff.

Origen was subclinically gnostic, and started his drift to absurdities
a laundry list he was eventually anathematized for post mortem,
because he was always looking for some deeper hidden meaning
in Scripture.

Orthodoxy admits the literal meaning and that there can be other
applications.

Thanks to Augustine (origin of a lot of problems but his claim to
fame was opposing the pelagian heresy which denied inherited
sin warpedness and upheld free will to such an extreme that
theoretically one could live sinless and not need a savior.
(yeah, well you still got to accept Jesus as your King or you are
engaging in sin right there.) The idea got ground that the Kingdom
of HEaven was the Church, and nothing more. that the devil
is bound now, though some argue the first millennium of the
church he was bound and is now loosed. But push this far enough
and you don't even have a literal Second Coming of Jesus Christ!

Sure the Church is an outpost of the Kingdom of Heaven, and we
are not to conquer the world for Christ and hand Him the Kingdom
we built, but recruit for the Kingdom of Heaven.

But what is the New JErusalem like? Here is what Revelation says,
after the new heavens and new earth,

"Then I, John, saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God,..." Rev. 21:2 THERE'S YOUR EVIDENCE. The NEw Jerusalem COMES DOWN FROM HEAVEN TO THE RESTORED EARTH. Rev. 21: 15, 16 "And he who talked with me a a gold reed to measure the city, its gates, and its wall. The city is laid out as a square: its length is as great as its breadth. And he measured the city with the reed: twelve thousand furlongs. Its length, breadth, and height are equal." "FURLONG fur'-long (stadion, "stadium"; Luke 24:13 John 6:19; John 11:18 Revelation 14:20; Revelation 21:16): A Greek measure of length, being 600 Greek ft., or 100 orguiai equal to 606 3/4 English ft., and thus somewhat less than a furlong, which is 660 ft." https://biblehub.com/topical/f/furlong.htm 606.75 feet x 12,000 = 728,000 divided by 5280 feet (1 mile) = 1378.98 (several sevens rounded off) 1378,98 miles high and wide. Like I said either you got an ongoing miracle here forever or the laws of physics get changed in the new heavens and new earth to allow this multistorey high rise city which by the way would cover about the same geography that was originally promised to Abraham's descendants not just Canaan alone. If each storey is 200 feet high then 728000 feet divided by 200 = 3640 layers. Each layer is 728,000 x 728,000 being a square = 529,983,000,000 sq. feet divided by 5820 feet (1 mile) = 100,375,757.58 after rounding off some digits square miles of space per layer. x 3640 layers - 365,367,757,575.76 (after rounding off some digits) total square miles of living space, room for trees, etc. That's over 365 billion square miles when you add all the layers up.

date of the exodus and SERIOUS problems with Egyptian chronology

https://ancientexodus.com/the-date-of-the-exodus/

serious scholarly cites in footnotes. This is important to this blog subject, because a lot of New Age propaganda involves denying
the historic truth of the Bible.

Egypt has almost cast a spell on archaeologists and historians and been a favorite of occult philosophers incl. freemasons for centuries.

esoteric evolution article at herescope

https://herescope.blogspot.com/2019/03/esoteric-evolution.html

chakra errors

years ago I ran across a chart showing the chakras as located NOT on
a line of the spine, but here and there.
https://www.eclecticenergies.com/chakras/differences.php discusses differences
in ascribed locations and number of them, in fact some systems figure there
are only four and the Indian tantra 7 and so forth.

someone has suggested somewhere that some chakras are artificial and placed
in people to exploit them by aliens or demons or whatever.

the kundalini energy apparently runs up the spine from the lowest chakra to
the top of the head. manifestations of this are often disturbing to put it mildly
and appear in charismatic Christian groups and in the latihan of subud. clearly
this is not The Holy Spirit, and could be a demon or a facilitator of such.

What is more likely, is that kundalini does not normally lie coiled at the base
of the spine, and that the chakras are not for the most part deployed along
the spine, convenient to such an undoing of creation sort of thing as
laya yoga or kundalini yoga.

" Chakras play an important role in the Tibetan Buddhism in completion stage practices.^[44] It is practiced to bring the subtle winds of the body into the central channel, to realise the clear light of bliss and emptiness, and to attain Buddhahood.
^48]"    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chakra                      

This is not identical with the raise kundalini idea but similar. whether it has the same
symptoms or not is not stated. however, several  new ager articles describe a
kundalini syndrome of bad stuff happening as a result of these efforts.

Clearly a lot of "manifestations of The Holy Spirit" are nothing of the sort, and much of
the lineage of "anointings" in Pentecostalism/charismaticism track back to William Branham,
who had an angel that acted more like a demon, and to who (instead of to God) Branham
attributed all his miracles. Branham also made a missionary trip to India, met an Indian
cultist who claimed to be the Messiah or Second Coming of Christ, and accepted him as such.
The shaktipat or transfer of Shakti by touch from a guru is identical to the slain in the spirit
and such like anointings, which Branham emphasized more than most did and probably
acquired in India, then passed it on pretending it was The Holy Spirit.

After some thought and prayer, I decided there is aside from the probability of either an
energy derangement that demons can use, or a demon itself or group of them transferred in
shaktipat or both, the whole chakra system is in error.

For one thing, the throat chakra is NOT center or base of throat, but top of throat ringing
it at base of skull. An attack on this point which I experienced twice in different ways,
caused a painful in one case, garotte cinching sensation in the other case, at that point.
Farther down, there is a center on the right side of the body where the belly joins the pelvis
in the flesh crease. Leadbeater (a pervert who was apparently also psychic) located chakras
some of them off center.

The error is not so much where they are naturally located, but in concentrating on them AS
BEING LOCATED SPINALLY.

These meditations bring the normally offcenter chakras into alignment, allowing an abnormal
straight flow upwards of energy. This derangement is easily used by demons, aside from
being a warping in itself.

So aside from opening them being to facilitate lying spirits, RELOCATING them centrally
is a warping of their position and creating an abnormal condition that, however peaceful or
whatever it might feel at times, is enabling a spiritually dangerous paranormal condition
or event to occur.

UPDATE Leadbeater said the chakras originate from the spine and play out in the various locations many of them not central to the spine. same issue applies, to focus on them at their origin in the spine instead of where they are supposed to be after origin, like any nervous systems segment, is to do damage that may feel good.

I notice that adherence to correct doctrine and rejecting evil and sin are often categorized as the kind of negativity that reflects an unhealthy condition of some particular chakra. maybe what the new age writers call unhealthy is in fact healthy!

Bill and Hillary are closet devil worshippers and the same demons deceive the white light wiccans who don't understand what they are worshipping

http://politicallyunclassifiable.blogspot.com/2016/11/bill-and-hillary-are-closet-devil.html

are all mystical experiences the same?

https://truthxchange.com/2016/10/the-interface-of-medieval-mysticism-and-buddhist-mindfulness-meditation/


this notion is explored in this article which points out that neoplatonism is undergirding
roman Catholicism to some extent despite its official trinitarianism. however if all
mystics are experiencing the same and headed in the same direction, clearly that
proves that mysticism as usually understood is an illusion.


Because with radical distinct theologies etc. you cannot be all the same, and the
mystical experience and practice which may be compatible with or an outworking
of the theory of one or some, is alien to others regardless of how it is seen or
experienced as not alien.


There is a problem of apparent differences even among mystics, which is resolved
by theorists of this mystical ecumenism, by saying they can't express what they
experience so each gives a somewhat different impression in trying to express it.


But R. C. Zaehner in Mysticism: Sacred and Profane shows two things that refute
this:


a. there are three (at least) styles of mysticism. theistic, monistic and "nature mysticism."
b. there was at least one man, Beaudelaire, who pursued the mystical paths each to their
distinct goal, so this one man experienced them. Unlike someone who experiences
illumination in one system and another in another and we can think they have experienced
the same inexpressible thing and apparent differences in description are an illusion.


Its not an illusion.


they are not the same, they don't lead to the same final condition, and.....


Beaudelaire died reconciled to the Roman Catholic Church and of the opinion that ALL
THE MYSTICAL SYSTEMS, EVEN THE THEISTIC ONE OF HIS PREFERRED
CHURCH, ARE DECEPTIONS. all are false.


now, the term mysticism is thrown around loosely. Even "mindfulness" is misapplied
now, when I first heard of it decades ago in a book on Buddhism, it was the first stage of
meditation where you are not abstracted from reality but hyper alert and hyper focused
on external reality and your relationship to it. That would be fine if it ended there, but
it doesn't. They go on to a next stage where they consider all this is illusion and keep going
to more and more abstraction.


Orthodoxy refers to mysticism meaning the living out in daily life of religion you don't
leave the holy when you leave church you bring it with you and try to conform your life
and such of the world as you can influence to it. (another term theosis or divinization has
nothing to do with becoming gods in the new age sense, but rather partaking of not
acquiring of or realizing one is made of the divine nature. participating in not becoming or
acquiring. gods in the sense of in God's family by adoption, by grace not by nature.
protestants would call this regeneration or maybe sanctification. "illumination" refers to
receiving baptism and Chrismation, the real baptism of and infilling by The Holy Spirit,
which is mostly imperceptible He gives you the power to lead a godly life.)


But the mysticism usually referred to by this term is one of altered states of consciousness.


it is not without reason that a comparison is made between some drug trips and mystical
experiences and illumination. the drugless trip is meditation where you learn to tweak your
brain without a drug doing it, altering your brain chemistry. most don't go to the point of
hallucination. A sense of adoration and awe and a lively sense of God being evident by His
creation and operative in it in maintaining it and enjoying His creation is not the same
thing as pantheism, but such a worshipful sense can be had by anyone in any religion
regarding a false god. The capability of experiencing the emotional reaction to God of awe
does not, therefore, guarantee your theology and biblical interpretations are correct.

Ray Yungen has passed away important research page

http://atimeofdeparting.com/articles.htm


Ray Yungen did important research on the New Age practices focusing
on how they have gotten into Christian churches under the heading of
relaxation methods and in some cases supposedly getting closer to God.
(The only flaw I see is that he bought the idea presented by RC and
protestant etc. proponents that contemplative or centering prayer and
lectio divina in the form they are now originated with the Desert Fathers.
Originally one was to contemplate Jesus Christ or some passage in
Scripture and lectio divina was reading The Bible in order to apply it
in life. Now they mean mind blanking and eroding the separate sense
of self identity and confusing yourself with God, or finding the god
within deception or the higher self, which is a disguised demon at
worst, a delusion at best. "Be still and know that I am God" is taken
out of context and made to be something someone says to themselves
about themselves, when it was YHWH (Jehovah) telling David to
calm down, know that YHWH is God Almighty and will deal with
whatever it was. And lectio divina is contemplating some bit of
Scripture to "soak" in it to get in a mood, then shut the book and forget
about it. disconnect between Bible and life, a mood not actual learning
and application and gratitude to the separate from us and from all
creation Creator. The criticism of these practices, however, is correct.)


Ray passed away a few days ago of a rapidly developing cancer.


[CORRECTION: this was not peculiar given his history and the type
of cancer. weakened immune system since childhood, diagnosed at
18 with a blood disorder given 6 months to live, but miraculously
survived until this leukemia was identified and he was too weak to
handle the chemotherapy apparently. Of course, on the other hand,
perhaps he did have some "help" several years ago, and God restrained
it until now.]




This is something peculiar in itself, and nothing unusual among unusual
deaths, that is, people who were onto something, getting too close to
something, too dangerous to some interests somewhere. In other words,
murder. There are a few viruses and chemicals that can start this
process. I would suspect some psychic attack and demonic attack could
do so also.


Which brings us to something special about Ray as an anti New Age
researcher and writer.


Ray recognized that energy that can be sent from the fingertips and
suchlike things are real. I think he actually saw some of it. This is
something that is, as a belief in itself that this is real, dismissed as
being New Age in itself. And in one video I saw, he said that he got
all kinds of trouble from other Christians for this, some wouldn't talk
to him anymore when he said he saw the sparks or whatever coming
off someone's fingertips.


That is wrong. In some cases, this may be a demonically contaminated
flow, or a demon disguised as a flow in some amorphous form. But the
existence of energy fields and centers in the body is indicated by
Ecclesiastes 6:12, and by the original (not sloppy variety) kirlian
photography, which documented the energy signature of the missing
half of a cut leaf, still attached to the rest of the leaf. This is suggested
as the cause of "phantom limb pain" in some amputees.


That passage in Ecclesiastes, in context, is not supporting focus on
or experimentation with these things, rather than one should focus on
God.


What is called the etheric body or astral body is essentially the soul,
the part of it that interfaces to and supports the life of the physical
body without which it (incl. all cells, etc.) is a lifeless lump.


This means that New Age practices are not only dangerous in terms
of facilitating heresy and delusions and demonic contact, but
dangerous in a pragmatic sense: the energy system is deranged by
these practices.


And witchcraft can be a real thing.


This made Ray far more dangerous than the usual anti New Ager.


And with this mindset, he was also talking about Reiki. This is an
extremely dangerous system, because unlike most that rely on the
practitioner managing to affect someone's energy system with their
own, this relies on a "current" received at initiation and spirits that
come with it, and are an essential part of the practice itself.


Someone on Cumbey's blog comments said that reiki puts spirits in
people and their internal only literature says so but that the patient
shouldn't know this.


The Master level of reiki can initiate others. practitioners have reported
the reiki spirits gaining more control over time.


The belief is that if enough people are initiated into master level, that
a kind of critical mass will be reached, and the reiki spirits can
operate more freely.


When I was researching Feri (Anderson) witchcraft, now split into
two or three versions, the egroup which was involving people from
the start of it who knew the founders said that the initiation involved
a "current" which could cause insanity and other problems in people
who were initiated without caution. Almost all on the egroup reported
that part of the results in their lives was being more "open" to
sexual experimentation ranging from promiscuity to perversion.
One at least had the experience of one of their "gods" taking the
form of a seductive barely pubescent little girl with a heavy sexual
atmosphere, like it was leading him in the direction of pedophilia.


Feri being ecstasy rather than fertility oriented is more anything
goes than standard wicca. And it has two sources. One from the
woman founder Cora is Ozark witchcraft, which itself tracks back
to East Anglia in England. A neo pagan who researched witch
traditions uncomfortably admitted in print that these were pretty
much the same as were accused in the medieval witch trials.
Initiation involves sexual intercourse heterosexual. The other is
a wild eclecticism drawing on Hawaiian Huna and flat out
luciferianism by her husband Victor Anderson, who was bisexual
(Cora was not bisexual).


Repeatedly reiki turned up as something the Feri people were also
into and very comfortable with, and they said the initiation involved
passing a current just like the Feri initiation did.


reiki initiation involves meditating on some symbols and getting
in touch with some spirits, the whole thing tracking back to something
that happened to someone on a mountain top in Japan.

Some thoughts on Tantra and the origins of yoga etc.

Tantra is a fast track system of escaping the round of rebirths and achieving
superhumanity and so forth. The well known terms out of occultism "left hand
path" aka LHP and "right hand path" aka RHP come from this. In the left hand
path ceremonies, various forbidden things were done and the woman the man
was to fornicate in "sacred sex" with would sit on his left side. In the right hand
path ceremonies, various forbidden things were done only symbolically, and
the woman partner in this would sit on the man's right side.


Both of course were practicing the forbidden the former in reality the latter in
symbolism.


Tantra included some ideas about manipulation of the energy body or what I call
the outer edge of the soul where it interfaces to the body and supports the body's
life. The number and locations of whirling centers of energy called chakra for
being wheel like (Eccles. 12:6 refers to all this as a reality while denouncing
this as useless for eternal life and a good standing with The Creator YHWH)
varies per system the present form being derived from Theosophy and Hinduism.


Some of this "energy" is just how they interpreted the feel of blood pressure
changes in parts of the body or all over. Some of it is more than that, being a
shift in the flow of the energy or etheric system of the individual (which is NOT
divine any more than the physical body is divine and is NOT your connection to
some all permeating etheric pantheistic deity and if an etheric substrate to
everything exists it is just another thing YHWH created, it is not YHWH
Himself and is not divine).


and worse yet, it can be the motions of a demon brought in by the exercizes.


Laya yoga is tantric in nature. It proposes to force the kundalini energy up through
the various chakras on the spine and into the brain inducing Samadhi more quickly
than usual methods. Eventually one achieves para-Samadhi - which you don't come
out of. In other words, laya yoga is a labor intensive form of suicide.


Now, yoga of the physical sort has some merit for some stretching and affecting
the endocrine system etc., but it is a conveyorbelt to the rest of it, and each position
was revealed by some demon posing as a god to some hermit sannyasi as an
invocation to a different "deity," each posture refers to and invokes a different
"deity."


the Hindu false god Shiva is connected to a lot of this, and is part of the pre Aryan
Indian scene apparently. Or maybe not. That the Zoroastrians call their angels
ahuras and demons devas, while hindus do the reverse, calling their "good gods"
devas and the demons asuras, fairly screams that some serious religious split
occurred in eastern Persia presaging the move of the devil worshippers into India.


Shiva has some interesting parallels to satan/Lucifer:


"In India, the god of the Hindus, Shiva, bears the name Bhooteshwara (Lord Of Ghosts And Evil Beings), Bhairav – Lord Of Terror, Chandrapal – Master Of The Moon, Kantha – Ever-Radiant (Luminous), Mahamaya – Of Great Illusions, Nityasundara – Ever Beautiful, Pinakin – One Who Has A Bow In His Hand, Bhutapala (protector of the ghosts). Satan is also given all these attributes in the Bible. He is the “ruler of the demons” (Mathew 3:22). His symbol is placed on the forehead."


http://shoebat.com/2016/10/16/christians-prepare-for-the-coming-battle-of-armageddon-the-war-between-god-and-lucifer-and-understand-what-must-you-do-to-be-ready/


So when you decide to balance your chakras or that something needs to be done about your
aura, you need to rethink and consider where all this came from.


The typical Christian response (I am a Christian) is to dismiss it all as "deception," in other words
no aura no chakra no etheric body exists. (exactly what that is that leaves the body at death then is
anyone's guess. actually the existence of the etheric body or soul is validated by the Bible.)


But this is wrong. The deception is what to do with them and why. 


Essentially New Age and Tantra (which found its way into Buddhism and probably gave birth
to the twisted form called Mahayana which came to Tibet by some crazy "holy men" who hailed
from India but taught notions of the illuminated master being above good and evil and can do
anything and it is not sin) are against the value of the body. any health to be gained is strictly to
make it easier to do more difficult things to accomplish the ultimate goal, "liberation" from the
body. It is consistent with Gnosticism. it is evil.


God declared all He had made "very good" in Genesis.


I have other articles here on this subject.

William Branham, kkk and Jim Jones

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLkb-Cjb9YU

Against Heresies (Book II, Chapter 25) by St. Irenaeus c. AD 180

God is not to be sought after by means of letters, syllables, and numbers; necessity of humility in such investigations.
1. If any one, however, say in reply to these things, What then? Is it a meaningless and accidental thing, that the positions of names, and the election of the apostles, and the working of the Lord, and the arrangement of created things, are what they are?— we answer them: Certainly not; but with great wisdom and diligence, all things have clearly been made by God, fitted and prepared [for their special purposes]; and His word formed both things ancient and those belonging to the latest times; and men ought not to connect those things with the number thirty, but to harmonize them with what actually exists, or with right reason. Nor should they seek to prosecute inquiries respecting God by means of numbers, syllables, and letters. For this is an uncertain mode of proceeding, on account of their varied and diverse systems, and because every sort of hypothesis may at the present day be, in like manner, devised by any one; so that they can derive arguments against the truth from these very theories, inasmuch as they may be turned in many different directions. But, on the contrary, they ought to adapt the numbers themselves, and those things which have been formed, to the true theory lying before them. For system does not spring out of numbers, but numbers from a system; nor does God derive His being from things made, but things made from God. For all things originate from one and the same God.
2. But since created things are various and numerous, they are indeed well fitted and adapted to the whole creation; yet, when viewed individually, are mutually opposite and inharmonious, just as the sound of the lyre, which consists of many and opposite notes, gives rise to one unbroken melody, through means of the interval which separates each one from the others. The lover of truth therefore ought not to be deceived by the interval between each note, nor should he imagine that one was due to one artist and author, and another to another, nor that one person fitted the treble, another the bass, and yet another the tenor strings; but he should hold that one and the same person [formed the whole], so as to prove the judgment, goodness, and skill exhibited in the whole work and [specimen of] wisdom. Those, too, who listen to the melody, ought to praise and extol the artist, to admire the tension of some notes, to attend to the softness of others, to catch the sound of others between both these extremes, and to consider the special character of others, so as to inquire at what each one aims, and what is the cause of their variety, never failing to apply our rule, neither giving up the [one ] artist, nor casting off faith in the one God who formed all things, nor blaspheming our Creator.
3. If, however, any one do not discover the cause of all those things which become objects of investigation, let him reflect that man is infinitely inferior to God; that he has received grace only in part, and is not yet equal or similar to his Maker; and, moreover, that he cannot have experience or form a conception of all things like God; but in the same proportion as he who was formed but today, and received the beginning of his creation, is inferior to Him who is uncreated, and who is always the same, in that proportion is he, as respects knowledge and the faculty of investigating the causes of all things, inferior to Him who made him. For you, O man, are not an uncreated being, nor did you always co-exist with God, as did His own Word; but now, through His pre-eminent goodness, receiving the beginning of your creation, you gradually learn from the Word the dispensations of God who made you.
4. Preserve therefore the proper order of your knowledge, and do not, as being ignorant of things really good, seek to rise above God Himself, for He cannot be surpassed; nor do you seek after any one above the Creator, for you will not discover such. For your Former cannot be contained within limits; nor, although you should measure all this [universe], and pass through all His creation, and consider it in all its depth, and height, and length, would you be able to conceive of any other above the Father Himself. For you will not be able to think Him fully out, but, indulging in trains of reflection opposed to your nature, you will prove yourself foolish; and if you persevere in such a course, you will fall into utter madness, while you deem yourself loftier and greater than your Creator, and imaginest that you can penetrate beyond His dominions.


http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0103225.htm

Discernment Ministries and Contemplative Prayer

the much feared by protestants rapproachment between
the charismatic evangelicals (often in the persons of their
most blasphemous and heretical leaders like Kenneth
Copeland) and the Roman Catholic church is along exactly
the worst lines of RC: contemplative mysticism.


This started as a warp of the Desert Fathers and is falsely
blamed on them because the same terms are used, but mean
totally different things. Originally contemplative prayer was
to pray while contemplating Jesus or some verses in the Bible
usually Psalms. And lectio divina was to read the Bible in order
to learn from it and put it into practice. All very conscious, and
not mystical except in the Orthodox meaning, to accord one's
life and thought outside of church services and prayers with
those church services and prayers. not to keep religion in one
pocket and the rest of life in another.


After the Great Schism of AD 1054 when RC went into schism
from us (and proceeded to lie about it to this day claiming we
went into schism from them), there was less grace in them and
so they more easily fell to deceptions. Complicating this was
Jerome's mistranslation of Genesis 3:15, from the woman's SEED
being the one to crush the serpent's head, to the woman herself
doing this. GENESIS 3:15 IS THE FIRST MESSIANIC
PROPHECY OF CHRIST IN THE BIBLE, AND IT POSITS A
DEATH AND RESURRECTION SINCE BOTH THE SERPENT
AND THE SEED DO LETHAL ACTIONS TO EACH OTHER.
The serpent's bite can only refer to a poisonous bite, and the
crushing of the head well, obviously the devil isn't totally bound
and totally crushed, but a severe crippling has occurred. the final
permanent elimination of him from all of creation but the lake of
fire hasn't happened yet.


Jerome mistranslated this against the witness of three streams of
Holy Scripture: Septuagint, Masoretic, and Samaritan. This had
to be deliberate. A contemporary excused him that he was
influenced by corrupt Greek manuscripts, but he did enough
research to know better. This mistranslation set up the RC for
any "marian" visions that promoted an extreme focus on Mary as
the one to conquer the devil. Sure, she is powerful, and likely a
supreme exorcist after Jesus, but the picture presented by most
of these visions is flawed, and involves a lot more talkativeness
and multiple visitations over time than typical of the few events
that occurred before and after the Great Schism in the east.


Scholasticism kicked in, adopting philosophy as guide instead
of merely a tool to exploit to convert pagans. Monastics revolted
in the opposite direction, anti intellectual and more emotional.
Contemplative prayer became the sort of garbage now promoted
by saints and magisterium and new age alike, and lectio divina
became "soaking" to get in a mood which was then exited to deal
with the rest of life, and as the mood fades so does any holiness
assuming you got any in the process in the first place.




Stumbling somehow on Barbara Aho's site, Watch
Unto Prayer, I discovered a lot of stuff that really
alarmed me.

Now, first off, I am sad to see that Ms. Aho accepts the
Jewish world conspiracy line of thought, totally rejects
Israel (after all didn't Ezekiel say they would be brought
to their old land and THEN purified of their uncleanness?
This is hardly the picture of the return from Babylonia,
though a few priests and others had married Moabite
women and not converted them or their children, and
some other problems, it was hardly a picture of the kind
of apostasy typical of secular and race oriented Israel
now), and is pre trib and I am not sure of her end times
scenario,

all that said her research on ecumenical dangers and the
networking involved and the New Apostolic Reformation
and other charismatic heresies and demonic manifestations
is superb.

Aho is good at catching subtleties that go over a lot of
peoples' heads. Those subtleties are important, because
just like subtleties in times past they lay the groundwork
once accepted for less subtle things. Also she points out,
that when some occult ritual in disguise is going on, the
lack of understanding by most participants has no bearing
on the outcome, it may even enhance it. Probably because
lacking understanding that might make them reject it, they
wholeheartedly go along with it, and the energies they
generate in their "worship" services are directed to the
purposes of the demons.

Fuller Theological Seminary is one institution that you
do NOT want to see in the specs on a minister of your
church.

For details, cruise her site. http://watchpair.com

Now, an awful lot of materials produced by various
discernment ministries are good. But NEVER accept
a writer or teacher as the best thing since sliced bread.
They all have flaws. (They are usually protestant,
which means they will attack the clear Bible teaching
of the literal Body and Blood of Christ being in the
Eucharist, which is also upheld by early church writers
from the second and third centuries, 100s and 200s
AD.)

A major problem in Roman Catholicism or rather two
major problems is this.

a. the veneration of Mary is over the top, various visions
have promoted ascription of titles and functions to her
that are proper to Jesus Christ only. While prots misinterpret
the idea of her intercession being in conflict with Jesus as
the ONE intercessor between mankind and God, when in
fact she intercedes with Jesus for us, so do the saints, so
does anyone you ask to pray for you, the overall picture
and terms in play in these visions and pop Catholicism is
close to usurping that role of Jesus if not actually usurping
it. Notable also is the fact that all or most of this stuff
began AFTER they went into schism from the original
undivided church, now called Eastern Orthodox in AD
1054. Of course they lie and say we are in schism but
that is not the case. Supposedly we are heretical also, but
how this can be when they share the same core doctrine
we do, but added to it, I don't know. By official RC
statements, Orthodox Apostolic Succession and Sacraments
are as valid as theirs.)

b. closely allied to the whole visionary trend are the
practices called lectio divina and contemplative or centering
prayer. Supposedly this goes back to the Desert Fathers
of Orthodoxy, but that is a lie or at least a misconception.

lectio divina was originally reading The Bible in order to
practice it, live it. Contemplative prayer was originally
about contemplating verses or several verses of Scripture.

In the west in the Middle Ages, the extreme rationalism of
scholasticism was a turn off to many monastics, and a more
emotional "mystical" mindset developed to offset this. The
result was lectio divina became "soaking" in the Bible as
it is called now, an irrationalist kind of reading, a state you'd
get into, then leave, no connection to the rest of the day.
Contemplative prayer similarly became an exercise in dreamy
states. This of course helped the development of visions and
so forth.

A major problem I have with visionaries is "locutions." This
is where instead of hearing a voice from outside into your ears,
the voice speaks inside your body, maybe your belly, very
weird sounding.

A person of my acquaintance who could project to some extent
did this to me once, I found it very creepy and told him not to
do this, but obviously a whole lecture could be delivered this
way to a deceived visionary, by a secret heretic with paranormal
ability within a mile of him or her, and an agenda. Aside from
just demons.

NO LOCUTION SHOULD BE GIVEN ANY CREDENCE,
and the presence of locutions in any visionary's history should
discredit the entire batch of visions.

In precisely this New Agey form, these RC mystical practices,
unknown (almost except for some individual deceived monks)
in Orthodoxy and among the early Desert Fathers, has come
into evangelicalism in the emerging church and other such
movements. (Some of them play with Orthodox icons and so
forth, and might be approachable to educate them about the
realities of what they are doing, and maybe convert them to
Orthodoxy and non ecumenical sanity.)

Watchman Nee once said that passivity of the mind and will
is what the demons want, and will possess a pagan doing this,
and when Christians do this demons will act on them also.
(you can argue about whether Christians can get possessed or
not, but then there would be the issue of were they really
"born again" or devoted to Jesus of The Bible or were they
only seeking thrills, chills, miracles, and cultivating occultism
relevant passive mind states and perhaps other ways of opening
doors to demons, such as getting the pseudo Christian version
of hindu shakti pat the touch that transfers anointing so called
and can put you on your back, whether Christian or hindu
context.)

grave sucking charismatics

"Grave sucking" is the name given by practitioners, people like Benny Hinn who may have started this, maybe not, by lying on Katherine Kuhlman's grave to get "anointing" from her remains (pick up vibes left over with the corpse supposedly uber holy), and denied after derision by some but recently a photo of the wife of a denier doing exactly this put the lie to this.
While Benny Hinn's Middle Eastern Orthodox or RC background as a child may have contributed to this, there is... nothing like this in the practice of either. Venerating, maybe touching, relics (bodies or body parts) of dead martyrs and other saints never including crashing out on their graves. This was some really extreme innovation on his part.

(that the dead may leave some kind of personality vibes behind, incl. influence from evil spirits they had or godly influence if very godly is another matter, frankly I always thought that funeral customs of kissing the corpse goodbye, and less extreme stuff like having picnics in graveyards, was asking for trouble, since the vast majority of people even baptized, chrismated and confessed and last rites-ed Christians even Orthodox are not reliable as perfect and God bearing.)
But there is another cultural source for grave sucking of exactly this kind, and even more extreme.
Nazi SS men, more trained in the mystical side of nazism than the average Nazi "laity" so to speak, would do this sort of thing, I think I recall they would lie on graves of heroic dead to get some of their courage, but DEFINITELY THEY WOULD HAVE SEX ON SUCH GRAVES WITH THEIR WIVES OR GIRLFRIENDS, WITH A VIEW TO THE RESULTING CHILD HAVING SOME OF THE QUALITIES OF THE ADMIRED DEAD.
So where is Hinn coming from? Especially with his bullshit about each Person of The Holy Trinity being Himself a trinity adding up to NINE gods? this is like ancient Egyptian pantheon. Obviously he is getting led and taught by demons who are the sort more able to contain their hate and obvious venom towards mankind enough to pretend to be loving and light and so forth, as St. Paul warns, satan can disguise himself as an angel of light. And the same spirit crew who could give pleasing even beautiful false experiences (just look at Miguel Serrano's ravings in Hitler the Ultimate Avatar) were with a more pagan flavor misleading Nazi and proto Nazi mystics, such as the Thule Society and the Germanen Order and less obviously harmful wanderwogel types before that that laid the groundwork for this.
Interesting how Paul Crouch (probably in hell, someone pray for his soul) and Hinn could both get in a wanna kill their detractors state of mind.

alchemists were after gold not wisdom

Where did all the bullshit about alchemy being spiritual get started? it is of course easily
fed by the hermetic notions of a world soul and prime material that can be manipulated.
But if all the symbolism was not about chemistry, with a mystical bent to it but the goal
being material things like gold and physical immortality, whence all the physical
chemical activities that resulted in the discovery of some elements and other things?
you don't do that by meditating.


it seems to have started with an American Civil War General, Ethan Allen Hitchcock.


" http://mysticbourgeoisie.blogspot.com/2008_07_01_archive.html
"during the winter of 1856-7 General Hitchcock writes a volume of 300 page entitles REMARKS
UPON ALCHEMY AND THE ALMESITS, INDICATING A METHOD OF DISCOVERING THE
TRUE NATURE OF HERMETIC PHILOSOPHY; AND SHOWING THAT THE SEARCH ATER
THE PHILOSOPHER'S STONE HAD NOT FOR ITS OBJECT THE DISCOVERY OF AN AGENT
FOR THE TRANSMUTATION OF METALS. BEING ALSO AN ATTEMPT TO RESCUE FROM
UNDESERVED OPPROBRIUM THE REPUTATION OF A CLASS OF EXTRAORDINARY
THINKERS IN PAST AGES.


In this book, published in Boston, the author sets forthe the reasons for his contntion that the
alchemists were neither frauds nor dupes but that they spoke in symbolic language, and that the real
subject of all their desires and efforts was not any philosopher's stone or any transmutation of base
metals into gold, but distinctly the human race and its improvement. The one desirable thing was
wisdom, - that self-knowledge from which flows the uprightness of life which is salvation."


pp. 425 - 426 Fifty Years in Camp and Field: Diary of Major-General Ethan Allen Hitchcock ...
By Ethan Allen Hitchcock "
 in Wikipedia is
"Contributions to alchemy studies[edit]
By the time of his death, Hitchcock had amassed a large private library, including over 250 volumes
on the subject of alchemy. This collection was widely regarded as one of the finest private holdings
of rare alchemical works and is preserved by St. Louis Mercantile Library at the University of
Missouri-St. Louis. Through Remarks upon Alchemy and the Alchemists and other writings,
Hitchcock argued that the alchemists were actually religious philosophers writing in symbolism. In
Problems of Mysticism and its Symbolism, the Viennese psychologist Herbert Silberer credited
Hitchcock with helping to open the way for his explorations of the psychological content of
alchemy."


Remarks upon Alchemy and Alchemists (published in 1857)
Swedenborg a Hermetic Philosopher (1858)
Christ the Spirit (1861)
The Story of the Red Book of Appin (1863)
Spenser's Poem (1865)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethan_A._Hitchcock_(general)#Contributions_to_alchemy_studies "


notice something here. this guy was interested in Swedenborg, and in James Webb's The Occult
Establishment I noticed that all the really major dangerous stuff track back to two sources of
lineage of influence, Swedenborg being one of them. I forget the other right now.  Swedenborg
had a lot of weird experiences and believed he was talking with angels, but he said at one point
that ALL spirits will lie. doesn't sound angelic to me. satan can transform himself into the likeness
of an angel of light Paul warns.


then that title Christ the Spirit would seem to imply a confusion between the Second and Third
Persons of the Holy Trinity and perhaps even a denial of the physical nature of Christ's
Resurrection. Not having read the book I can't be sure, but both are possible given the title and
neither inconsistent with occult philosophy.


Spenser's Poem would be about The Faerie Queen which essentially posits that a knight who
wears the cross of Christ would properly have to do with the fae, and though all kinds of
deception by spirits is indicated (Spark notes) the association makes the fae look legitimate.
That it is a red cross is indicating this knight is a Templar, of which the less said the better.
They had already been hijacked by (or perhaps did help form) speculative masonry and other
groups by Hitchcock's time.


The Red Book of Appin is a flat out grimoire. I don't propose to read any of this garbage
having been exposed already in my wrong headed teens and prefer to forget most. But the
picture I'm getting on this guy is that he was into dark stuff.


Hitchcock influenced Silberer, Silberer influenced Jung, Jung with the help of a familiar
spirit aka demon and assorted Nazi mysticism begat a sizeable chunk of the New Age and
took Freud's dip into mythology into a whole hog wallow.


Jung invented the notion of the collective unconscious, which is bullshit. a similar idea in
theosophy and related occult philosophy is the akashic records where is recorded everything
that ever happened. That by definition would include every thought that ever happened, most
of which is going to be bullshit. So if it exists it is worthless. A classic example of what you
can get when you seek to find the real history of whatever, is a couple of proto Nazi mystics
Webb I think it was wrote about, who meditating discovered that originally there was Aryan
Adam and Eve, who were if I recall right 12 feet tall, lived at the north pole or something
like that and ate cabbage and drank ice water and would have conquered the world on this
brew if Helga a Jew hadn't come along and introduced them to beer.


yeah. right. so much for universal collective unconscious and records of ancient reality.
(an occasional psychic stamp of some events on a location, which is probably what those
hauntings that do not interact with the viewer and seem to replay events every time seen
would be, is not akashic records as proposed.)


The collctive unconscious is a fraud, the product of a fraud. Famously, Jung was treating
some girl who had dreams consisting of ancient false gods including hindu. Supposedly
she could only have gotten this by tapping into the collective unconscious. OOPS! she was
the daughter of a scholar in all this with a library for her to wallow in. that gal was NOT A
BLANK SLATE. Jung knew this. Jung lied.


But I digress.


Years ago I stumbled on some mention of ancient Egyptians processing gold out of
gold mining slag, when the easily gotten gold was used up and they were after trace
amounts. My guess is that the whole alchemy nonsense was the result of some lackey
seeing this, and jumping to the wrong conclusion.


I read the Turba Philosophorum decades ago, probably in the 1980s. All the different
lectures in it contradict each other. There is one commonality among them.


Alchemy is a process, of taking something, breaking it into its constituent parts,
doing things to these parts or in some cases to only some of them, and then
putting the parts back together to make something totally different than what you
started with.


some similarities to cooking of the more complex sort are obvious. And once you get
the gist of this process, you can start applying it to social manipulation and even
pedagogy and whatnot. But that doesn't mean that that is what it was always about.


The failure of alchemists to make gold is legendary. less well known are some
apparent successes, which may be nothing more than developing a good counterfeit
to gold, that by weight (from the lead part) and temperature tolerances (from some
alloying) would pass assay of the medieval sort.  In one case in one of the German
kingdoms, a king ordered all alchemic gold items turned in for reimbursement, no
questions asked. a shield or a plate of such was in a museum whether it was ever
tested I don't know. Clearly someone succeeded on a massive basis and the king
wanted this stuff off the streets. probably because it was fraudulent.


Alchemists developed many herbal and chemical mix medicines, and Paracelsus'
remedy for syphilis and other things was essentially an early experiment in
chemotherapy.


But I digress.


the failure as I said was legendary, and a cartoon in an old history book I had
in Palo Alto High School (or was it Jordan Jr. High?) was a single square, with
the recurring character Hy Story now done up in wizard gear and chemical equipment
on the table and the landlord is telling him "and if the rent isn't paid by tomorrow you
can go make gold somewhere else."


so now suddenly you have all this "spiritual alchemy" garbage. while it is not
exactly garbage to say you can apply alchemic procedures on society and individuals
economically and psychologically, it IS garbage to say that that is all that alchemy
was ever about.


with the failure of alchemy physically, the search to explain the alchemy and hermetic
reputation for wisdom and to preserve that reputation so you could keep your mystic
reverie and sense of awe and wonder going and maybe pocket some cash was on.


Some clever bastards may have applied alchemic procedure to non physical mental
and social issues as an extrapolation, but that grew OUT of alchemy, the chemical
efforts were not a decay FROM it or a misinterpretation of it.

The uncondtional forgiveness heresy

on Constance Cumbey's blog, I endeavored to explain from the perspective of one
who has been victimized so knows how it works, the evils of psychic domination.
This was intensely dismissed as delusional, and bitterness and lack of forgiveness
towards the perpetrator who I refer to as my biological (not adopted) so called (because
lousy) mother.


an extreme example is this, and I am posting this as an answer here having invited
him her or it to see the rest of the answer here that I posted part of there.


"Anonymous said
"in any case, any lessening of hostile feeling towards her risks reactivating the
mesmerism she had on me. trance state. crippled peaceful no reason to live
eventual state if allowed to go on catatonic or nearly so."
We are asked to give up everything to follow Christ, including the right to "not be harmed". Complete forgiveness,
100%. No excuses. It's hard, but that's why we are asked to count the cost beforehand."
10:51 AM
https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?postID=7383821847849022919&blogID=11772087&isPopup=false&page=2


aha, you admit your idea of forgiveness means surrender to evil. you mention "the right to 'not be harmed.'"
and this in context of the risk of losing sanity and coming under evil spirit influence.
 you are a new ager of
the worst sort, that perverts the words of Christ, twisting the Scriptures to your own and possibly others'
destruction (2 Peter 3:16b) we are not called to do this kind of forgiveness you demand, but to "save yourselves
from this untoward generation" Acts 2:40
MAY GOD SMITE YOU YOU FOUL WHITED SEPULCHRE SOFTLY SPEWING THE POISON OF SATAN
TO LURE GOD'S CHILDREN BACK INTO STRIKING RANGE OF HARM THEY ESCAPED.
God damn you to hell. and rescue all those you've sent back into the hands of pedophiles, rapists, hypnotizers,
corrupters, seducers, abusers of the children and animals that they need to protect and you would keep them
from being able to do so because they have to "forgive" not to mention the cultists and slow persuaders away
from the faith of Christ.


ANALYSIS OF THE PROBLEM FOLLOWS.


unconditional love and unconditional forgiveness are not biblical. you won't find it in the Bible
only in twisted exegeses that are really eisegesis, reading things into the Bible that aren't there.
cherry picking a verse here and there and exalting something out of all proportion to its role
in the Bible and you won't find it in the behavior exhibited by The Fathers when confronted with pretend repentance,
such as when St. Athanasius refused to admit Arius to communion recognizing his fraud in
pretending to renounce his heresy.


Jesus said to resist not evil but what context? immediately follows turn the other cheek if someone
smites you on your cheek. okay, so what kind of smiting? it must be something leaving you in
a position to turn the other cheek, i.e., conscious, not stunned, standing upright, alive. in other
words, a slap in the face. this is not evil with a capital E.


Jesus said to the Father to forgive His crucifiers because they did not know what they did. That
however is usually not the case regarding people who do serious harming and are often
psychopathic. Prior to the verses about forgiving seventy times seven, IMMEDIATELY PRIOR,
is Matthew 18:15-17 which describes a process of private confrontation on an issue, and the
problem person won't "hear" you. then you take a couple of witnesses for the next confrontation
to establish who said what so no one of you can lie about the other. If the problem person still
won't "hear" you, take it to the congregation. and if still the problem person won't "hear" you
"let him be to thee as a heathen man and a publican." In other words, total ostracization. act
like he or she doesn't even exist.


This is falsely handled by people like Tom Horn and/or Chuck Missler I forget which I think it
was Tom Horn, who argue that no one should publicly criticize a minister of God on a blog
post but talk privately to him. Well, that criticized person made their problem statements
publicly, and it is not a relationship that is at issue but the false teaching that others influenced
by it need to hear the refutation of. and warnng against the false teacher. St. Paul said to
publicly rebuke evil doers before all so the others will fear and named names on two occasions.
One of which was Alexander the Coppersmith, who was denounced for two things: doing
much harm to Paul personally, and greatly resisting the Gospel.


Some situations are so dangerous that you need to short circuit the process and just get out of
there.


And when one is susceptible for whatever reason, the situation is dangerous.


unconditional this and that is how evangelicalism following the fads of writers not the word of
God and not searching the Scriptures like the Bereans did has decayed into the mess it is now.
From an Orthodox perspective, Protestantism in general has problems. but this is bad by any
standard, and in Roman Catholicism and even in Orthodoxy you find this same poison. It
facilitates the worst crimes against children, the worst heresies and covering it all up.


in Orthodoxy, the problem is that instead of some Bible verses out of context we have writings
of monastics, which are sometimes over the top. the context not only of the words but of the
writer should be kept in mind, which show THESE ARE NOT APPROPRIATE OUTSIDE
OF A MONASTERY. Church canons against certain behaviors apply in the world (the rest
of the church living around marriage and business and whatnot things of the world) and in
monasteries, so that means you have to take some action involving denunciation and getting
some prosecution done. In monastery incidents there are cases of people being thrown out.


The sort of things we are not to take note of are the sort of petty nonsense people kill over
or start family feuds lasting generations. Typical in Middle Eastern and supposedly Orthodox
Balkan cultures.


The second problem is the problem of pride. the monastery is targeting this above most
else, since the other sins lust and gluttony are ruled out by the lifestyle though homosexuality
occasionally becomes a problem.


Pride and vainglory can operate, poisoning ANY virtue like with the Pharisee who was
proud of all his virtue which ruined the value of that virtue in God's eyes, compared to
the sinner publican who was sorrowful and ashamed and repentant. And pride can
definitely ruin the virtue of condemning evil and exposing it because you can feel very
holy, virtuous and worthy of all glory and honor and praise.


That is the context in which Desert Fathers statements were made, that are prostituted to
the coddling of evil in RC and Orthodoxy.


the problem is inappropriate application of Scripture or of monastic examples. whence
the problem? the evil one throws the mind into a sharp focus on something out of
context. someone who is well intentioned gets obsessed. Also a person who is not
well intentioned at all, knowingly twists and misapplies Scripture and elders' words.


A classic example of Scripture twisting is a Talmudic decision regarding the rule that
one shall not be killed for their children's sake or the children for the fathers' sake but
each die for his own sin. This is obviously against killing family members of a
condemned person. And this law was cited in Kings or Chronicles to explain why when
a man was killed for the murder of the king whose son ordered the murderer's death
the murderer's family was not killed. Obviously this common sense meaning was the
interpretation in those days.


But in the Talmud somewhere we read that it was held to mean that a son couldn't
testify against his father (or daughter couldn't either). that would be a case of someone
dying on account of his children. OBVIOUSLY THIS MAKES PROSECUTION FOR
INCEST, OR FOR PROSTITUTING YOUR DAUGHTER, or anything else prohibited
for a parent to do to the kid impossible. I can only wonder what the rabbi who came
up with this one was into himself.


Here are some links that address this. http://www.wayoflife.org/free_ebooks/judge_not_heresy.php


http://www.itlnet.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=100:is-conditional-forgiveness-biblical&catid=43:systematic-theology&Itemid=78


http://cfsc.com.au/confronting-a-common-heresy/


http://pemptousia.com/2012/08/the-myth-of-unconditional-lovw/




In Christ or Therapy by E.S Williams, unconditional love is described as luciferic since it is
amoral in fact antimoral. unconditional forgiveness is denounced in the next chapter.


I can't buy the rejection of therapy entirely or the rejection of psychiatric drugs, but then
some people surrender themselves to any authority easily and others pick and choose.


amazon kindle gives you a chance to read some of this.


And the NEw AGe scene is big on this unconditional and non judgemental stuff. that should
tell you something right there.

Ira Einhorn Hit Piece 4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxTwqgyBeqU


details his associates and his role in establishing networking for the New Age Movement

stuff on Mars indicating current life and past life and war

UPDATE: "Brandenberg argues for a massive
nuclear blast on the surface, but has the wrong isotope as indicator, "


I was wrong. this was from public info with Wikipedia etc., accurate enough depending
on what was given them. Brandenburg's information on the isotope in question leaked
to him but was classified nuclear weapons info. The reactions to the initial statements he
made to such people showed he was onto something.


http://politicallyunclassifiable.blogspot.com/2016/06/must-see-planet-mars-has-something.html


one of the biggest potential blows to the NEw Age worldview or "paradigm" is the
conditions on Mars if NASA admitted to them. They can't hide all of it however.
The Face, even in the later view, is clearly artificial. the later view or "cat box" shows the
two slots on top that are the eyes, the line that is the nose the line that is the mouth,
and a collapsed look on one side. Surrounding it is a sharp edge that looks like the
base of a monument.


Another big thing with New Age is that aliens are good and "spiritual." this is strictly
from channeled sources, which should always be ignored. The remaining info sources
are the Nordic looking aliens that Adamski and others (all of whom had Nazi
connections) claimed to have met.


THE SOURCES TO PAY ATTENTION TO ARE THE PEOPLE WHO WERE
KIDNAPPED ON AND EXPERIMENTED ON AND EVEN BRED FROM BY
ALIENS.


many of these do not require hypnosis to remember it. others remember a lot but need
hypnosis to remember the rest, especially when a nicey nice screen memory of good
compassionate aliens is in play, and the hypnosis gets behind the screen memory to
find horrific experiences and not so human looking people.


Supposedly according to one dubious source, there is a "federation" out there and
they don't allow weapons in space. LIARS ALWAYS SCREW UP AT SOME POINT
IF THEY BLATHER ON ENOUGH, AND THESE PEOPLE SPOKE OF WARS
CURRENTLY IN SPACE, SO CLEARLY THERE ARE WEAPONS OUT THERE.


This wouldn't establish either side as good, just both as armed.
Mars shows clear evidence of damage from a war. Brandenberg argues for a massive
nuclear blast on the surface, but has the wrong isotope as indicator, however, such
isotope scattering as exists seems to epicenter from a place that has no crater, more
like an airblast, which rules out any natural nuclear reactor like in Gabon gone
runaway. too concentrated, not diluted like in Gabon.


wreckage of war materiel and so forth exists, sharp edges of parts, etc. a few skulls.
some things so extreme NASA had to airbrush them to hide them, others could be
written off as odd shaped rocks. Far too many of such to be that.
New Age generally views "humanity" as inherently good in the sense of not fallen, and
the only evil is some individuals. Unity and high tech are supposedly good automatically.
Joseph Farrell complains of the Tower of Babel moment where people had unity and
it was destroyed and suggests aliens do this now and then to keep us from getting
our act together as humanity. That there is no sin mentioned in Genesis regarding this
tower as the reason for stopping it.


that last is false.


The sin was pride, vainglory, and rebellion. They wanted to make a name for
themselves and stop the God ordained scattering on earth that was starting and rule
over the perimeter scattered people. God observed that nothing they imagined would
be impossible to them.


So what is wrong with stopping this? It was a rescue both of the potential victims
of the imperialism allowed later, and of the tower builders from being allowed to
sin still more.