Friday, January 8, 2016

Chakras

For background http://fightthenewage.blogspot.com/2015/04/what-color-is-your-aura-supposed-to-be.html and http://politicallyunclassifiable.blogspot.com/2015/02/your-chakras-target-of-new-age-deception.html

the passage Ecclesiastes 12:6 KJV describing the4 general breakdown process in dying and
death, says, "Or ever the silver cord be loosed, or the golden bowl be broken, or the pitcher
be broken at the fountain, or the wheel broken at the cistern."
This makes no sense outside of the context of the subtle body and its interface to the physical
body. Having stated that on cumbey's blog, someone said

"Christine, so if I understand rightly, you assert that Ecclesiastes 12:6 refers to the chakras as long as it is within:"the context of the subtle body and its interface to the physical body"?

Could you please explain exactly what you mean by the subtle body, how it is constructed in your opinion and then how it interfaces with the physical body?

Given such necessary contextual conditions as you have stated, specifically, how does Ecclesiastes 12:6 refer to chakras?

And finally, given all that, would you therefore say that the version of Ecclesiastes 12:6 of the Septuagint is rather more reliable in its reference to chakras than the Masora is? "

To which I answered,

"you do not understand me correctly. it does not refer to them as long as it is in this context, rather IT IS UNINTELLIGIBLE IF YOU DO NOT HAVE THAT INFORMATION CONTEXT TO READ IT IN. This is evident from the many and conflicting efforts to interpret it, ending in puzzlement and confusion.

information context is not extrabiblical in the sense of unbiblical. A person who never saw a sheep, didn't know they existed, didn't know what shepherds do and what sheep act like and predators, etc. and didn't know about the PAssover sacrifice of the lamb, would be as mystified by remarks about "the Lamb of God" one missionary
to eskimo had to replace lamb with seal because of this to make it intelligible.

I am not going to discuss this any more here it will only tie up blog space. you can re read what I have said and search the archives if you are puzzled. you can also look at http://fightthenewage.blogspot.com "

followed the usual "poetic" bullshit dismissal

"Anonymous said...
"Remember him—before the silver cord is severed,
and the golden bowl is broken;
before the pitcher is shattered at the spring,
and the wheel broken at the well,
7 and the dust returns to the ground it came from,
and the spirit returns to God who gave it."

This is a highly poetic description of death, from Ecclesiastes 12. Christine takes it to refer to chakras. I'd like to see her make the case, including a definition of a chakra."

first off, poetry draws on comparisons to known things. None of this makes much sense
as poetry because it does not refer to anything in the visible body that you can compare to
this. This an example of "the many and conflicting efforts to interpret it, ending in puzzlement and confusion" that I mentioned earlier, another effort is to relate the wheel to the heart and aorta
etc. above it, but that is not much of a match, though if the wheel at issue is a pump, and the
heart is a pump there is a resemblance of function, however it is more like an invisible wheel
that pumps the invisible system, supporting the visible pump that supports the physical system.
secondly, anonymous raised the issue of the Septuagint version, so I took a look.

"Remember your Creator until the silver cord is removed, and the gold flower is pressed
together, and the pitcher is shattered at the fountain, and the wheel runs together at the
well;"

Frankly, this is even more obviously relevant, because the aura like a flower can expand and
contract, and the wheel running together at the well might be something that was plural,
in which case the lot of the chakras disintegrate into each other, or perhaps the wheel if it is
a main life driver center folds in on itself and disappears like falling down a well.

"Could you please explain exactly what you mean by the subtle body, how it is constructed in your opinion and then how it interfaces with the physical body?  "

Its called the soul, idiot. the part or outer edge that is the life giving driver to the physical body
of course interfaces to the physical body. I can't tell you and neither can the new agers, exactly
HOW it does this.

"Given such necessary contextual conditions as you have stated, specifically, how does Ecclesiastes 12:6 refer to chakras?"

this person is trying to provoke an argument. I have explained many times over the years, that
"chakra" is Sanskrit for "wheel." SAME WORD. and like the invisible wheels the wheel(s) that
Ecclesiastes refers to disintegrates some way at death.

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  2. chakras are not about theology. they are geography, so to speak. as you can see from the other articles linked the new age information on this and auras is dead wrong, and manipulating them is dangerous.

    yes, I took a paranormal hit to the throat chakra twice in almost 16 years. one was a modern synthetic or carved crystal what4ever singing bowl, tuned to the throat chakra. I was not expecting the result, a thin garotte type cinching up at the top of my neck. My significant other got the feeling I needed to get a phone call and his call gave me the excuse to back out of the experiment.

    the second time was from him. you see, he's an energy feed vampire, at least when he's drained and tired but seems to do it less now, maybe managing his health and stress better. But back then one time he looked in my eyes and dived at me to kiss me on the lips. Well, this was a bit odd. and in a few seconds I was almost screaming in pain, same general location as the first but
    more diffuse.

    the jokes about my chakras getting out of sorts on an airline are based on the fact that when I was repressurizing coming down to land, my Eustachian canals were in great pain.

    Now, the location of the throat center pain was similar, in the case of the vampire "deep feed." but the Eustachian canal pain was higher, its lower end overlapping the upper level of the throat center pain.

    new age positions it on the front center or in the center of the throat. It isn't there. Its high on the neck and includes the base of the skull.

    Now, years ago, when I was a teen and first read about this, the translated document said that developing the throat chakra enables you to feed on the mere aromas of things.

    Chakras are not Hinduism. any more than elephants are. but if you didn't know elephants exist, if they were almost extinct except for occasional sightings by people who are automatically unbelieved, then because they figure in Hindu art, there is an elephant false "god," I think his name IS the word for elephant, well, any Christian claiming to have seen or dealt with the results of an elephant would be accused of preaching Hinduism!

    same deal here. its just the anatomy of the soul or the outer layers of it.

    We aren't divine though we do exist. chakras aren't about divinity, they just exist.

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  3. as I have shown, chakras are just things the new age makes use of like ether physics, quantum physics, whatever. the real effects of the moon are exploited to support the non effects of more distant planets and stars.

    the whole thing is a non sequitur from the real to the fraudulent.

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