the passage Ecclesiastes 12:6 KJV describing the4 general breakdown process in dying and
death, says, "Or ever the silver cord be loosed, or the golden bowl be broken, or the pitcher
be broken at the fountain, or the wheel broken at the cistern."
This makes no sense outside of the context of the subtle body and its interface to the physical
body. Having stated that on cumbey's blog, someone said
"Christine, so if I understand rightly, you assert that Ecclesiastes 12:6 refers to the chakras as long as it is within:"the context of the subtle body and its interface to the physical body"?
Could you please explain exactly what you mean by the subtle body, how it is constructed in your opinion and then how it interfaces with the physical body?
Given such necessary contextual conditions as you have stated, specifically, how does Ecclesiastes 12:6 refer to chakras?
And finally, given all that, would you therefore say that the version of Ecclesiastes 12:6 of the Septuagint is rather more reliable in its reference to chakras than the Masora is? "
To which I answered,
"you do not understand me correctly. it does not refer to them as long as it is in this context, rather IT IS UNINTELLIGIBLE IF YOU DO NOT HAVE THAT INFORMATION CONTEXT TO READ IT IN. This is evident from the many and conflicting efforts to interpret it, ending in puzzlement and confusion.
information context is not extrabiblical in the sense of unbiblical. A person who never saw a sheep, didn't know they existed, didn't know what shepherds do and what sheep act like and predators, etc. and didn't know about the PAssover sacrifice of the lamb, would be as mystified by remarks about "the Lamb of God" one missionary
to eskimo had to replace lamb with seal because of this to make it intelligible.
I am not going to discuss this any more here it will only tie up blog space. you can re read what I have said and search the archives if you are puzzled. you can also look at http://fightthenewage.blogspot.com "
followed the usual "poetic" bullshit dismissal
and the golden bowl is broken;
before the pitcher is shattered at the spring,
and the wheel broken at the well,
7 and the dust returns to the ground it came from,
and the spirit returns to God who gave it."
This is a highly poetic description of death, from Ecclesiastes 12. Christine takes it to refer to chakras. I'd like to see her make the case, including a definition of a chakra."
first off, poetry draws on comparisons to known things. None of this makes much sense
as poetry because it does not refer to anything in the visible body that you can compare to
this. This an example of "the many and conflicting efforts to interpret it, ending in puzzlement and confusion" that I mentioned earlier, another effort is to relate the wheel to the heart and aorta
etc. above it, but that is not much of a match, though if the wheel at issue is a pump, and the
heart is a pump there is a resemblance of function, however it is more like an invisible wheel
that pumps the invisible system, supporting the visible pump that supports the physical system.
secondly, anonymous raised the issue of the Septuagint version, so I took a look.
"Remember your Creator until the silver cord is removed, and the gold flower is pressed
together, and the pitcher is shattered at the fountain, and the wheel runs together at the
Frankly, this is even more obviously relevant, because the aura like a flower can expand and
contract, and the wheel running together at the well might be something that was plural,
in which case the lot of the chakras disintegrate into each other, or perhaps the wheel if it is
a main life driver center folds in on itself and disappears like falling down a well.
"Could you please explain exactly what you mean by the subtle body, how it is constructed in your opinion and then how it interfaces with the physical body? "
Its called the soul, idiot. the part or outer edge that is the life giving driver to the physical body
of course interfaces to the physical body. I can't tell you and neither can the new agers, exactly
HOW it does this.
"Given such necessary contextual conditions as you have stated, specifically, how does Ecclesiastes 12:6 refer to chakras?"
this person is trying to provoke an argument. I have explained many times over the years, that
"chakra" is Sanskrit for "wheel." SAME WORD. and like the invisible wheels the wheel(s) that
Ecclesiastes refers to disintegrates some way at death.